Dave Solberg

Improving P30 Chassis Motorhome Stability

Dave Solberg
Duration:   5  mins

Description

We recently received a question from a Club member regarding P30 chassis motorhome stability. Specifically, the member wondered if there was anything he could upgrade or tweak as far as the components of his RV’s chassis that would improve its handling. This issue gets raised fairly often, especially when it comes to older models of large coaches. So in this lesson, we teach you several things you can check for, execute and upgrade to improve P30 chassis motorhome handling and gain greater peace of mind out on the road.

What to do when P30 chassis motorhome handling worsens

It’s a scary situation to be riding the highway in your full-sized motorhome and fighting every gust that passes you by. Past a certain size, RVs are essentially billboards on wheels, and as they get older and their drive components wear down, you can really start to notice the effects of wind. If you’re having a tough time feeling in control of your rig, that may be due to multiple causes, including poorly distributed storage/excessive weight, low tire pressure, or eroded chassis components.

To help you figure out which issue or issues is giving you the most trouble, Dave Solberg explains the most common problems and solutions he’s encountered when it comes to poor RV handling. He walks you through a quick inspection, describing what you should look for and how to proceed once you discover the culprit. You’ll learn why P30 chassis motorhome stability is often affected by deflated or pinched airbags in their outdated A-frame suspension, as well as the proper way to weigh your vehicle for GVWR and GAWR.

Understanding your vehicle’s weak points is the first step in making a safer and more comfortable ride for yourself and your loved ones. With Dave’s tips, you’ll find out what’s dragging your vehicle down (apart from the wind) and figure out the proper fix!

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4 Responses to “Improving P30 Chassis Motorhome Stability”

  1. Dave

    Pre 2000 P30's should have a stabilizer shock on the passenger side tie rod. My 2000 Brave on a 1999 P30 (454) had it but I think it was an aftermarket item.That thing was pretty stable in the wind. I think that Workhorse changed the front suspension on the 2000's (8.1L).

  2. Samuel McMillon

    I have a 98 Vacation with p30 chassis, Gas tank is hard ti fill. the first 50 gal is ok, but the last 30 gal take about 30 min to fill. It did not do this when it was new.

  3. Michel Ferland

    I owned a 95 Fleetwood on a P30 chassis, I installed Super Steer coil springs and it made a world of difference. Many of those older units have a nose down stance as they are under sprung, you will need to get the the axle load before ordering and they are made to match the weight they need to support.

  4. RICHARD

    Good information

Got an interesting question, that came in on the site. "I have a 1988 Winnebago Super Chief 31 foot, "and would like to improve the handling, "especially during windy driving. "I've thought of replacing shocks, "rear air bags, which do not hold air and sway bar. "Do you have any recommendations? "What would you start with? "Where should I shop? "I can do some of it myself, "I'm a beginner, mechanically inclined. "Would having an alignment help? "The tires are in good shape. "And it's Rich." This is a pretty common problem with the older chassis. I spent five years on the road, driving mostly P 30 chassis, which this one would have on it, and it was, it was basically a one chassis, for about everything that was out there, and it was a little bit like elephant on roller skates. The number one thing, that you need to do, you remember, you're driving down the road, with a billboard pretty much. So anytime, you come under an underpass, and you have no wind there, but then you come out of wind, it's going to effect that side wall, so you, you need to check all the components, on your chassis. Make sure everything is up to specifications. So the first thing, that I would suggest, on a unit that's that old, is go get the coach weighed. You really need too make sure you stay under, the gross vesicle weight rating. Which is the GVWR, that's what the chassis manufacturer says, this is the maximum weight, that this vehicle can weigh going down the road. With all your propane and your gas, and your water and your stuff inside of it. Don't go over GVWR. The next thing you're going to look at is GAWR, which is gross axle weight rating. Do I have too much weight on the front end? Do I have too much weight on the back end. You know, the heavier the vehicle, the more its going to move around. The more the tires are going to kind of be a little mushy, going down the road as well. So go to a CAT scale. You'll find them at just about every Flying J, Pilot, if you go to CATscale.com, you'll see one in your area, and for $10, you put it on that scale. Put the front wheels on the front pad, the back wheels on the second pad, so I know gross vehicle weight rating overall, that I'm not over, and I also know that I'm not over on one component. Now that P30 chassis had a pretty light front end. So I would start by looking at that. I may have to move some stuff, and one of the things owners don't rec, don't understand, is that just because I have, all this storage capacity underneath, doesn't mean I can fill it to the brim. I have to know my weight ratings. So check that out first, the next thing is that P30, had a A frame front suspension it was called, it had two coil springs at each of the wheels, rather than today's I beam that you see on the Workhorse, Fords, so forth. Inside those coil springs there were airbags, and pretty notorious for those airbags to get pinched, deflate and pretty much become worthless. You need to crawl in underneath those, take a look at those airbags, pump them up, if they don't hold air, I would replace them. Now he also recommended, or said that, he had airbags in the backside. Now this happens to be a '96 Monaco, and Monaco's have great rides, if their airbags are all filled up. They have eight airbags, they have two sets on each wheel, versus one set on some of the other ones. Now on that '90, or that '88, he just talked about, the airbags on the back would have probably been, an optional airbag from either 3T, or could even have been, Jet Company out of Humboldt. Those airbags are not holding air, I would replace them. The next thing I would look at is the shocks. In the front especially, if those shocks are starting to get weak, they're starting to bend. I may even upgrade those to Bilstein Shocks, the newer models that are out today. I wouldn't go out and look at a chassis suspension system, until I made sure every one those components, are up to specification. Now if you still have some handling issues, at that point, then you might want to look at somebody like, Roadmaster, who has a suspension sway bar, that would go up on the other side of it. One last thing to look at is your tires. Now this is something that people take for granted. You need proper tire inflation, you know, before, and I would get alignment. He did bring that up too, I would, because once you get your coach, most manufacturers will align the coach at the factory. But once you get the coach, and you put all your stuff inside of it, and it has a chance to settle a little bit. That alignment's going to be, will need to be redone. So get those aligned, but make sure you check your tire pressure, on a regular bases, and the only way to find proper tire inflation, it's not what's written, stamped on the side. That's maximum pressure, at maximum weight. Once you weigh that vehicle, that we talked about before hand, go to the tire chart, if you go to rvsafety.com, you can go to tire chart, for just about every tire on the market. Find your tire, the size, dual or single application, and what is the pressure. If I have too much inflation in there, if I've loaded that up to the maximum, what it, if it says 90, 120, whatever it happens to be, and I don't have full weight in that. I'm going to balloon that tire up, and I'm not going to have enough tread, and that's going to affect my handling as well. I want the maximum tread, so check your, all your chassis components, get the proper tire inflation, and make sure you're not overweight, and it should make a big difference, in the handling of your RV.
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